Before Plastique Tiara and Nymphia Wind became friends, the drag gods were already tying them together. While competing on RuPaul’s Drag Race All Stars Season 9, Plastique, during a sewing challenge, asked producers for a needle and thread. She was handed a Ziploc bag with the name “Nymphia” written on it. Inside was a curved needle and high-quality thread, left behind by Nymphia Wind, who had filmed Season 16 of the main franchise on the same soundstage only weeks before.
They would meet for the first time post-Drag Race the next year in Washington, D.C., in the lead-up to All Stars 9, but they’d already eyed one another as kindred spirits and prospective collaborators.
Now, nearly two years later, the pair are headlining “The Serpents Tour,” a 15-city American tour, inspired by the Asian folktale of the White Snake and the Green Snake, that promises “couture fashion, theatrical storytelling, and dynamic performances that celebrate Asian heritage, pop culture, and drag artistry.” The tour, which kicks off in New York City on January 25, will run through February 16, and feature the star power that won Nymphia the crown on Season 16 and made Plastique the Drag Race contestant with the most social media followers.
Ahead of the tour’s launch, Plastique and Nymphia took some time out of their busy preparations to chat with Grindr.
Read the full interview with Grindr below:
MH: How did you settle on the Green Snake and White Snake concept for the show?
PT: I reached out to Nymphia because I was just amazed by her cinematic experience on Drag Race. It was the Year of the Snake when we first talked about this tour, and the story of the White Snake and Green Snake is so so, so popular in Asian culture. It's basically is our pop culture. Every opera. Every song. Anything that relates to the White Snake and the Green Snake—immediate cunt factor is added to the story. So when we talked, we were just like, “It's the Year of the Snake. Two snake sisters. You're the Green Snake, I'm the White Snake. Perfect. It's done.”
MH: How did you decide who was the White Snake and who was the Green Snake?
NW: It’s pretty obvious. The characters already match our own drag personas naturally. The Green Snake is the younger one, and she's more chaotic, fiery, lively. The White Snake is more elegant and more poised, more like a goddess kind of vibe. I wouldn't want to do the White Snake myself.
PT: Truly typecasting.
MH: Obviously, there’s going to be great fashion in the show. How many looks are there? How many quick changes? How has putting together all the costumes gone?
NW: The main problem of this tour is, “How are we going to change in time?”
PT: Y’all don't even know. We’re like, “What if we put this over here, so I have time to go over here to change my costume?” Girl, there are so many logistics being put into this journey alone, just for me to change my costumes. It is insane.
NW: But to give a number, we're working on five outfits each, but in five outfits, there's going to be reveals, so some of them are double.
PT: There's going to be theatrics, accouterments.
NW: We’ve both been talking about this as our passion project. We're torturing ourselves, making this more dramatic, adding more to it, when we could have just put on a little body suit.
PT: No, truly we could have just gone out there, done a little number, and then be done, but no.
NW: It’s like a RuPaul maxi challenge. This is basically how we're treating it.
MH: What's been the most difficult part of putting this show together?
NW: For me personally, I'm making a lot of costumes, and it's just basically being the CEO, like, “Okay, I need this done, and I also need to do the music, and then the visualizer, and then the wigs, and then the heels. Okay, so what am I gonna wear, but also rehearsing, performing, and then choreographing, and then finding the dancers, booking the performances.” That's the hardest part, but I think when it actually gets down to the tour, it's just changing in time, because we went all out with the costumes. We need a behind-the-scenes film. It would be really funny.
PT: No, it's so hard. I've been on other tours before, but creating your own tour is insane, because you're in charge of everything. I'm in Vietnam. It's 1:27 a.m. I'm here to film visuals and pick up costumes. That's how serious I am about this tour. I think that's the attitude we both have. As Asian artists, we just want to be good work, represent what we're about and share our love of this art with the people we're presenting it to. So it's really important for us to do well. And honestly, I enjoy the work. I've never had so much fun creating a tour or a project. The last time I've had this much fun was Drag Race.
NW: It's fun for me to be creative, and we don't have to answer to anyone. We're basically the creative directors here, so it's very rewarding work.
MH: And neither of you is getting eliminated!
PT: Well, she never got eliminated, so good for you, sister.
MH: So you have 15 stops on this tour in less than a month. What does that look like logistically? Are you in a van? Are you flying? How are you getting all of these costumes around?
PT: We’re Ubering.
NW: We’re taking the bicycle. No, we're doing a bus tour, so that's going to be fun. We're traveling the whole continent. I've always wanted to do a road trip, so why not?
PT: Yes, and 15 stops, I think, is the best amount of time. If it's 30 or 50, I'm like, “Oooof, this is a lot,” but 15 is perfect, and then we're planning to take it worldwide, so there's more to come.
MH: What's your favorite part about being on a tour?
NW: Well, I haven't technically been on a full-on tour, so this is gonna be my first.
PT: I think the energy from the audience. You just get a high off of it. After a show, sometimes I stay up until four or five, just scrolling, looking through the reactions, and just wanting to be better. My favorite part is improving and seeing how people react to it.
MH: Since this interview will run on Grindr, I have to ask, are the queens using Grindr on tour? Are people messaging? What’s the vibe?
NW: When I was flown around all over the place, I would go on Grindr, because sometimes you're just in the hotel alone, and you're kind of bored, not necessarily to hook up, but just to be a bit messy chatting with people. Sometimes it's funny interactions. Sometimes it's an eye roll. Sometimes it makes you laugh. It's just entertaining for me personally. At one point, I changed my profile to Nymphia's profile, and people were like, “Why are you using Nymphia’s photo?” So now I treat it as an entertainment source personally, because Mama don't hook up no more. She’s old.
MH: When I’m traveling, I’ll use Grindr to get recommendations for restaurants and stuff.
NW: Yeah, like what’s around the area? I do that too when I’m in Europe.
PT: Best brunch spots?
NW: Portugal here I come. What are we doing?
MH: To wrap up, if someone was thinking about coming to the tour but hasn’t bought tickets yet, what would you tell them?
NW: Stop Asian hate. [Laughs] No, just have an open mind and come to experience culture, camp, Asian drag. It's really AAPI-centric, and it's just to have fun. We want to celebrate AAPI talent, and it's a story that's based on traditional Asian folklore. There's a lot of culture behind it, and we're really showcasing our background as Asian people.
PT: The things we do on this tour, I guarantee you've never seen on any drag tour before. I can honestly say that. It is really, really fierce, and it's just like culture, cunt, camp, everything wrapped up in one, and it's from our perspective.
NW: And you know the fashion is going to be sickening.
Tickets available for The Serpents Tour at NymphiaPlastiqueLive.com